MSM tools spread Soros propaganda
I can hear the derision as she writes "tools", with emphasis. To move on (again), I responded to the provocation:
Subject: RE: A great web siteSo I wasn't to provocative, and steered the dialog away from the BDS stupidity into something a bit more interesting, but do you think a dyed in the wool nutter can overcome the Sorobot condition? Of course not. Here is the response, each point pertaining to the line of dialog above.
Great? More like insane pablum for the infantile mind. Please, if you can't see past that crap, you're toast. By the way, the truth that sets you free... Hmm, are you set free from your emotional bonds by that propaganda? What could free your mind from the cancerous tentacles of leftist nutterdom? Anyhow, getting kinda lonely over there in peacenik land. What happened to daily death counts, front page car bombs, and 'failed policies'? Where is Iraq? What happened to the civil war? Didn't you argue over and over about how there is a civil war going on in Iraq? From June '06 "... there already IS a civil war going on, and has been for some time." Still holding on to that? Even in the face of new knowledge that many more of the combatants were foreign than we thought?
Gee, it is easy to figure the world out, just do exactly the opposite of whatever you nutter libs suggest. We would be in a better place, and are! Oh wait, the surge was a huge mistake right? Oh, no, you've dumped that and want to go back to "The War is a lie!"
Yeah, why not just get to the real problem, and call for a recount in Florida! You might get somewhere, and satisfy the BDS itch. That's DERANGEMENT in all caps. At some point you have to accept defeat in order to move forward, its part of the healing process.
So, enough with the silly diversions. Truly that is what they are. How about your man Obama? The Clinton machine is ripping him a new one. What side are you falling down on? Neither one makes a very good candidate. B.O. is a political creampuf, and Hill & Bill are absolutely unelectable. Unless our fruitcakes nominate McCain or Huckabee. Or as is talked about, both. Can you imagine it? Hillary would be more divisive as a president than Bush! Incredible! Four years of acrimony on a grander scale than now. And McCain splits the pubs completely. No core support. Tends to not get you elected, but lets pretend. What kind of Pres would he be? Don't see his management style working very well.... And that is a understatement. Micromanager like Bush Sr., yet without the executive skills. Ouch. You can't be a maverick, a underdog, a outside voice when you are the leader. Bad news. So, it looks like we are in for four years of pain no matter where we go.
Have you seen the look in Bill's eyes? Scary. He wants to be the center again, and its pretty obvious. What happens when he becomes the focus of Hill's campaign? Strange world. The best way to ensure a heavy turnout on the right is to get Bill out of the closet. But Hill will already inspire increased turnout. It's a double bonus. However, the best way to get half of them to stay home is send up John. So the whole dynamic gets weird. What is really strange is under the other scenario. Obama is actually polling pretty well with the "Republican light", as in not the core.
He would probably beat a few of our selections, and easily beat McCain. Weird. Simply because he has no negatives, and is magnanimous and upbeat. As long as he doesn't talk about any actual policies, and continues on with the platitudes and fluff, he would fare well.
Hey, on a last note, how in the world do you get to the place where public works is economic stimulus? Is it just that politicians for the most part have zero economic knowledge? I heard a idea floating around, presidential elections are becoming a drain on the economy. Data seems to support this, so a real stimulus package would include shortening up the election cycle. Say three months max. This time around its over a year long, and that ain't good for the markets!
Rant, rant, rant. Your not making a logical argument, but that’s not unusual from the head-in-the-sand right.Well, I must comment in two parts. First the Iraq war perceptions. You have to be exceptionally delusional to think "the ethnic cleansing is complete". Confusing sectarian violence with ethnic cleansing is an egregious error. Ignoring the flood of Iraqis returning to Baghdad and other peacefull regions is just plain blind. Sadr's Mahdi army is not regrouping, it is splintering. Sadr called for a halt, yet Iranian backed elements of the "Mahdi Army" continue to operate. And those elements are being crushed. He wants power, and to get it, will align with whoever looks to promote his influence. Standard politician. Finally we have "Americans no longer risking forces in clearing operations." Right. It's little green men we hired from Prussia driving our Hummers and pounding sidewalks. How thick can you be to make a statement like that? So if we are just sitting on our butts, and its the Iraqi army out doing the clearing ops, it is an even bigger success! Nothing will pervert the course of Bush Lied. No fact can dislodge the antiwar nutter meme. For me, it has gone past amusement, I am genuinely worried about those Americans who are infected with BDS, what can cure it?
Ya, great website. Documents the actual lies of the Scrub far-right war-mongers. In their own words. They lied and lied and lied, and the cost is mover 2 TRILLION dollars. More than enough to rebuild the roads, schools, hospitals etc etc etc that we need but won’t get.
(re: civil war in Iraq) Yes, has been and still is a civil war. Death counts went down for three reasons:
a. the ethnic cleansing is complete…the walls separating the shia from the sunni in Baghdad are complete. And millions have either fled the country or fled to other regions of the country.
b. The Sauder (sp) army stood down to regroup. They are playing the time game.
c. The Americans are no longer risking forces in clearing operations. They are sticking closer to home.
But it’s not over is it. The puppet government of Iraq can’t agree on the time of day. The factions are unable to reach any agreement that will produce a stable government. The Brits see that and are almost out. Others are also withdrawing. Soon on the silly Americans will be there. And they can’t stay. Scrub HAS to take out 30,000 troops before July. He’ll claim that it’s a sign of ‘progress’. What it really is is that those troops will have put in their 12 to 15 months and have to rotated out, and there are no replacements. So, this summer we will see a re-surgence of the war. The American goal is permanent bases, control of the oil, and control of the region. That is not going to happen, not now, not tomorrow, not ever. The Americans have lost the war and they are the only ones who don’t know it, yet.
(re: foreign insurgent percentage) And the source for this assertion is, what?
(re: nutters obvious wrong assessment) Have not backed away from that at all. The surge was a huge mistake…it simply prolongs the inevitable outcome. And the war was a lie, top to bottom. Even the neo-cons have backed away from that one. Nobody still claims the WMD argument, not even Scrub, and Darth Vader has also finally shut-up because his party told him to…. Wanna guess how many appearances Scrub will make with the R Prez candidate? Z E R O. Scrub is the kiss of death for the R’s and they know it.
You might also notice that things continue to go down hill in Afghan. Now there are attacks in the capital. Drugs are plentiful. More of the country is under insurgent control. And Afghan is ‘vital’ to our defense, well, how? Of no importance in any way. How about your buddy General Mush. More of the country is pro-Islamist now than ever. Can’t control the NW provinces. And he resorts to murdering political opponents. Yessir, a real model of democracy!
(re: defeat and healling after Florida) Try to remember the above after November. I’m sure your support the new Democratic President, Democratic House and Democratic Senate. As part of the ‘healing process’. Ya, sure.
(re: Dem field) Well, I go for Senator Obama. No baggage, clearly anti-war, willing to think outside the Washington box.
So, which of the losers are you going to support, Rudi the liar and adulteror, Huck the crazy religious preacher? McCain the confused who still thinks there is a military solution in Iraq?
Consider those who are now the ‘core’ of the R party. Religious fruitloops, rapturists and faith healers on the one hand, deluded fearful American first’ers who think war solves everything on the other. Ain’t gunna win that way anymore!
Ya, President Obama. I like the sound of that.
(re: stimulus package) Now try and follow this. The role of government is NOT to ‘stimulate the economy’; no Republican would think that way. The so-called stimulus package is really just a way to get a. More money to big business. B. cut taxes for the rich C. try and buy votes (at about 500$ a vote. In fact, this is NOT the time to ‘stimulate’ the economy. What is needed is to stabilize the economy and shift to a sustainable economy. A ‘growing’ economy is not sustainable. It just uses up non-renewable resources (like the oceans, for example, considering how those resources are managed now). What’s the status of fishing, worldwide? How about pollutants in the sea? How about the destruction of coral?
What we need, for example, is a ‘one child per family’ policy world-wide. The earth cannot sustain 2+ children per family policy.
That, of course, requires ditching a lot of crazy religious practices….Jesus ain’t agunna save you….sorry about that.
We need to reduce consumption, not increase it.
We need to produce less ‘crap’ and conserve resources.
We need to eliminate welfare-monopoly-government-capitalism
And turn to the one try solution….
The remaining assertions are baseless and boring, no BDS nutter will be convinced that anything is working anywhere. Not a healthy place to exist mentally. Now, lets start with the fun stuff. First is the difference between nutter libs and sane conservatives. We actually do get over defeat pretty easily. For the most part, we loose so many battles to the current atmosphere of populist socialism that you have to remain personally positive and try to influence others with a bright future instead of a constant cancerous pessimism. Our fight is about ideas, and it primarily happens within the larger tent of Independents and Republicans who hold conservative views to varying degree. It matters little about specific wins or losses, unlike the liberal sycophants who are consumed by emotional arguments.
It is very funny to hear libs complain about our candidates in terms of adultery, religion, and war policies. Yet they have no problem apparently with Obama's black power church (I don't care either, no bigotry here), Hillary's war support, Bill's abuse of women, and the list goes on... Even better is the love they all seem to have, on the surface, yet there is NO discussion of actual policies, NO specifics about the war, NO specifics about the economy, just platitudes and class warfare. And now a little bit of dirty politics to amuse us. It's a traveling soap opera on the left. Quite entertaining! But not much to comment on of substance.
So that leaves this insane fusion of socialism and environmentalism. We could see this coming from the 80's. The Red became Green in Europe. And the elite wannabee liberals always looks to idyllic socialist democracies in Europe for the golden model. Nevermind the obvious failure of the welfare state, the lack of economic growth, and reliance on America for security. None of that matters to the nutter lib. They are infused with a bitterness toward their own country, and can not overcome it, irregardless of reality.
First thing to note as a direct comment is the psychotic notion of sustainability. Has any successful society ever stopped growing? Duh... It is in the definition of success. But for the insane lib, success is to be condemned. Government should be there to prevent success. Yeah, socialist government control has worked soooo well historically, why not try it again! Ingenuity, technology, the undaunted overcoming of obstacles is the definition of American dominance. Freedom from taxation, bureaucracy, and government intervention in the marketplace is the subhead. Libs can't take or even comprehend that, so desire to crush it.
Moving on, I love the one child per family people. What idiots! No comprehension of demographics. Fortunately, these people tend to have NO children, and will leave the gene pool to be dominated by my descendants. Everything boils down to a "zero-sum" game of emotional arguments. Craftily used by socialist power mongers to titillate the broken emotional state of the modern liberal. The king powermonger in our day is Soros, hence the perfect designation of Sorobot. Amazing how we can drift off topic, yet when it involves nutter libs, things just come back together no matter where you go.
Let us end with some "crazy religious practices" for good measure. We should carefully observe the blindness of an atheist lib proclaiming "Jesus ain't gonna save you." I don't think they know what needs to be saved. Jesus is alive, and saving me everyday. Saving me from emotional consumption. Saving me from a twisted reprobate mind. Freeing my vision, allowing the opportunity to see decisively, and make choices that lead to a fuller life. Ultimately, a life knowing God through Jesus is complete fulfillment, and a expansion of what man can experience. It is existence that breaks the confinement of the physical, natural realm.
Some are fearful of the apparent loss of control, or balk at the requirement of acknowledging a power that is beyond the self. Others simply have a defensive shell insulating themselves from confrontation at the core of their existence. It is painful to look inside, and find yourself lacking. Many build up a crutch, a support to justify the deficiency. They look to outside stimuli to maintain that crutch. A constant source of reinforcement. This ties in well with the Sorobots and BDS. It's a ready made fountain of emotional reinforcement. Belonging, self justification, emotional invigoration (even if its negative) are all to be found in the propaganda of the nutter left. It is EXACTLY like a cult. Fulfilling the needs of the damaged followers, while taking from them the power each has to decide the way forward.
March on Sorobots! Trudge toward your socialist destiny!